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jamesw
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I'm working on some CNC cut foam patterns, and after some advise on which products/methods to use to get a suitably surfaced pattern for taking the mould...
The surface isn't perfectly smooth, with many small pockets from the machining process - see attached image (slightly worse in places)
My original plan - (and have ordered these bits) was to use your epoxy coating resin with glass bead & silica and then brush/spray onto the surface - do you think that will be sandable to a suitable surface finish? should I be looking at adding some 163g woven glass over the part? These are largish parts for car bodywork...
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James
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Well that went really badly!
Set the cloth up dry, trimmed, cut and checked it would lay down without any wrinkles - wet down the surface and then applied the cloth. All went downhill from here! wrinkles appeared in areas that didnt before, and after 30mins of struggling for it to sit flat (without then lifting in the corners!) I gave up and pulled the lot off, I just have an epoxy painted pattern now - luckily it's salvageable! I can imagine it's very easy on something with light curvature, but my part has a lot of curves....
Any tips? I cannot possibly see how I can get cloth down nicely on the part! Maybe I needed to cut it into more sections?
Very disheartened with it all
James
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Hi James,
What weight cloth are you using - 163g 2/2 twill glass?
Which resin - our Epoxy Coating Resin?
What is the shape of your pattern - can you post a picture?
You're right that some relief cuts may well have been in order; there is no reason not to put some relief cuts into the scrim cloth otherwise, depending on the shape, it may well be difficult to get the cloth to stay sat down wrinkle free on the surface.
Get back to me with the above info and ideally some pics and I'll gladly point out what might have gone wrong because essentially if you're using a light glass and epoxy resin that should be a reliable way to scrim a foam pattern. I look forward to hearing back from you...
Matt
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Finishing Surface of Foam Pattern
jamesw
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13 Years Ago
Hi James, Thanks for your post. Finishing a foam pattern up to a high gloss ready for pattern...
Matt (Staff)
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13 Years Ago
Thanks Matt, I did have a quick read of that thread and it wasn't clear on whether I should be...
jamesw
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13 Years Ago
Hi James, If you're considering scrimming with glass first (which I think you should) then do it...
Matt (Staff)
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13 Years Ago
Thanks very much :)
jamesw
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13 Years Ago
One other question, Would you still use the epoxy coating resin for skinning with 163g - or...
jamesw
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13 Years Ago
Hi James, Yes, the Epoxy Coating Resin is perfect for pattern finishing. I'd say it's the best of...
Matt (Staff)
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13 Years Ago
Great, have ordered enough bits to do it... can I lay up the skin by hand or would I need to vacuum...
jamesw
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13 Years Ago
By hand would be the way to go when skinning a pattern like this. You actually want it to be resin...
Matt (Staff)
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13 Years Ago
OK great, will let you know how I get on! Thanks again
jamesw
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13 Years Ago
Well that went really badly! Set the cloth up dry, trimmed, cut and checked it would lay down...
jamesw
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13 Years Ago
Hi James, What weight cloth are you using - 163g 2/2 twill glass? Which resin - our Epoxy...
Matt (Staff)
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13 Years Ago
Hi Matt, Thanks for the reply - I also tried a second cloth using the then tacky coat of epoxy to...
jamesw
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13 Years Ago
Hi James, Yes, I think what might be significant here is what you were expecting from this scrim...
Matt (Staff)
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13 Years Ago
Thanks Matt, appreciate it - I'll wait for it to cure, then try again - will be intesting to see how...
jamesw
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13 Years Ago
Hi James, We'll start filming a new video tutorial series in the next week or so which will start...
Matt (Staff)
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13 Years Ago
Brilliant, look forward to it!
jamesw
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13 Years Ago
The resin coating has actually left a pretty good hard surface - To produce the final finish, I've...
jamesw
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13 Years Ago
Hi James, Providing you can work in a well ventilated area and you have a half decent mask (doesn't...
Matt (Staff)
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13 Years Ago
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