XCR Resin delamination


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Junior
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I've been refurbishing a kayak paddle (blades) by sanding back and applying coats of XCR laminating resin. All has been working well until I tried to apply multiple coats without the full 24 cure in-between.

I noticed in one of the easy composite videos that you can apply another coat once the first has reached the tacky stage (about 2 hours), so I followed this procedure applying three coats with 2 hours in between, then letting it all fully cure.

Now I have attempted to flatten the resin, the individual layers are beginning to delaminate one by one. Is there any reason for this?Crying
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Iv had the same issues number of times,  keep getting told it's mixing ratios,  which I can't see how it can be as I use digital scales.
If you know why please let me know.
Iv resulted in sanding between coats but it's too time consuming Sad
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The only reason for it that I can see is blushing. I'm not sure if the XCR is supposed to be non-blushing, I imagine it would be. But in most cases the only reason an epoxy won't bond to itself is if it develops amine blush on the surface and the salts become a contaminant that prevents a good bond. 
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What's blushing?
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Amine blush. It's a reaction between the amines in the hardener and moisture/carbon dioxide in the air. There's various types of amines, and some of them are much more prone to blushing than others, which is why some epoxy products may be deemed 'non-blushing' - they use an amine product that is much less sensitive (or in some cases, don't use any amines at all). 

Things to watch out for are cool, humid conditions, as this is when there is a lot of moisture in the air and the curing process takes longer so the blushing reaction has more time to present itself. The thing that catches a lot of people out is the carbon dioxide side of the reaction. People often try to heat up the area using a gas heater, which pumps out carbon dioxide. 

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Just took a look at the TDS, and it appears the XCR is in fact very sensitive to amine blush. 

What conditions have you guys been using the resin in, has it been at least 20 degrees and relative humidity of no more than 50%? 25 degrees is actually probably more ideal. 
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Just at home, I don't have access to workshop conditions.
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I would also tighten up on your weighing and mixing as slight errors in these can all contribute to the problems you are having.  When the mix ratio or mixing itself is out, the cured hardener components can come to the surface as with blushing causing the same problems.

Warren Penalver
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I am using digital scales and mixing up 12g at a time (9g resin, 3g hardener).
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Ah, see small amounts are very difficult to measure accurately enough. With epoxy you should always be within 1% accuracy. For 12g, that means you can only be 0.12g out. Are you confident you were within that margin? 



And yeh, I understand having to work from home conditions, unfortunately these materials can be very sensitive and if you can't adjust the conditions to be suitable then it's better to just wait until they are. 
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