Talk Composites - The Forum for Advanced Composites
Back
Login
Register
Login
Register
Home
»
Advanced Composites Forum
»
Pre-Pregs
»
Breach unit seal
Breach unit seal
Post Reply
Like
4
Breach unit seal
View
Flat Ascending
Flat Descending
Threaded
Options
Subscribe to topic
Print This Topic
Goto Topics Forum
Author
Message
MarkMK
MarkMK
posted 10 Years Ago
ANSWER
HOT
Topic Details
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 338,
Visits: 2K
Have run my first few parts using OOA material (EC's own) and, whilst I've got the last couple to come out with only minor pinholing I'm still aiming for a pinhole-free finish as I don't have the facility to finish with clearcoat, although smaller parts I can coat with epoxy and flat.
I'm pretty consistent with getting fully sealed bags with infusion now without need to chase leaks, but finding envelope bagging parts more problematic when, in theory, there should be less to go amiss, so to speak. I'm concerned that my problems may be arising at the breach unit, although I've carefully installed the hosetails using PTFE tape and I'm careful to make sure the through- bag element is screwed down tightly whilst avoiding wrinkles in the bag. I use the larger diameter barb connectors to get a tight fit on the silicone hose too.Cure cycle is a consistent 100° for 8 hours with temps monitored on the parts with thermocouples and an external thermometer.
My question is: would any minor leak occuring in this area affect the final part finish if the bag itself was airtight, seeing as it is 'downstream'. Pump is left on during cure with no audible indication from it that there's any air ingress when running, but when left for a few hours during drop tests I've heard a slight tone change for a few seconds when opening the breach unit ball valve. I'm even starting to question the quality of the valve itself. I've also considered curing without the pump, but is a pinhole-free finish realistic to expect even with a totally sealed bag and are there volatiles in the material that really need to be evacuated during cure?
Thanks
Mark
Reply
Like
4
Reply
ChrisR
ChrisR
posted 10 Years Ago
ANSWER
HOT
Post Details
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 363,
Visits: 3K
I've never been 100% convinced with the ball valve connectors so I went with these
Not had a problem with leaks from the breach unit (been using them for 4odd years)
Reply
Like
4
GO
Merge Selected
Merge into selected topic...
Merge into merge target...
Merge into a specific topic ID...
Open Merge
Threaded View
Threaded View
Breach unit seal
MarkMK
-
10 Years Ago
any air leak will affect the quality of the part, you should always do a leak down test prior to...
scottracing
-
10 Years Ago
[quote][b]scottracing (15/09/2015)[/b][hr]any air leak will affect the quality of the part, you...
Hanaldo
-
10 Years Ago
I've never been 100% convinced with the ball valve connectors so I went with these...
ChrisR
-
10 Years Ago
Ah, are they the units from Vac Innovations Chris? Quick connects would certainly make life a little...
MarkMK
-
10 Years Ago
yes they are
ChrisR
-
10 Years Ago
Thanks for confirming Chris Thanks for that Hanaldo, I also recall Paul from EC saying that...
MarkMK
-
10 Years Ago
Post Reply
Like
4
Similar Topics
Post Quoted Reply
Reading This Topic
Login
Login
Remember Me
Reset Password
Resend Validation Email
Login
Facebook
Google
Explore
Messages
Mentions
Search