Pertabolis
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baja_patient (06/05/2012)
Nevermind, I use glass now and no solvent will dissolve that. Unless yo are using fluoridric acid !
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steveastroUK
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Yeah, polystyrenes come in clear as well as expanded forms.
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baja_patient
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steveastroUK (05/05/2012)
[quote][b]baja_patient (30/04/2012)As for the acetone, I poured it into a regular plastic drinking cup, the cheap throw-away kind which I assume is PVC, and the bottom just fell out instantly. I was using class A acetone, which I bought from an epoxy supplier specially to clean epoxy tools. /quote]
Usually polySTYRENE, NOT PVC - which is as much of a sod to dissolve as PU.
Steve Hmm yeah probably, but the cup was clear. Didnt know you could get clear polystyrene cups. not the white coffee ones. Nevermind, I use glass now and no solvent will dissolve that.
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steveastroUK
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[quote][b]baja_patient (30/04/2012)As for the acetone, I poured it into a regular plastic drinking cup, the cheap throw-away kind which I assume is PVC, and the bottom just fell out instantly. I was using class A acetone, which I bought from an epoxy supplier specially to clean epoxy tools. /quote]
Usually polySTYRENE, NOT PVC - which is as much of a sod to dissolve as PU.
Steve
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Pertabolis
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I'll give it a try anyway, without sanding in the fiber layer.
I didn't realise CF would block the signal but after a quick search, internet is full of references to this matter.
Thanks very much!
Pierre
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Matt (Staff)
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Hi Baja,
No need to apologise; I guessed as much and that is what the forum is here for after all.
Pierre, regarding your material choice, diolen will be problematic if your surface sanding will break down into the diolen. If it won't and it's just the edges then I think that, allthough a little more frustrating at the edges, you woud be able to work with it. If you think you'll sand down into the diolen on the surface then stay well clear, it would be very hard to deal with in this sense.
Best regards, Matt
Matt Statham Easy Composites / Carbon Mods - Technical Sales
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Pertabolis
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No worries the forum is there for that and Thanks Matt for your help.
Baja I thought at using diolen but it seems quite difficult to sand/polish and obtain a nice finish. My process needs that I sand the fiber then polish, and I quite like this effect (in opposition to a real glossy surface). |
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baja_patient
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Hi, I'd like to apologize for the false information. I got my foams mixed up. I built a surfboard once and regular styrofoam and high density closed pore foam were non compatible with polyester. As for the acetone, I poured it into a regular plastic drinking cup, the cheap throw-away kind which I assume is PVC, and the bottom just fell out instantly. I was using class A acetone, which I bought from an epoxy supplier specially to clean epoxy tools. As for dissolving the cured epoxy, I had a strong hunch that its chemical proof-to resistant when fully cured. It did however come to mind that in your uni-mould video, the first one, you use acetone in a spray bottle to tack the cloth to the cured resin. Then I remembered it was polyester. Anyways I am obviously by no means an expert and am learning everything I can. I now know more and will thus shut up for a while!  Good luck with the project. Cheers
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Matt (Staff)
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Hi Pertabolis,
Actually acetone won't dissolve polyurethane foam or model board. Polyestyrene foam (like Styrofoam or bead-board insulation) is the type of foam that would be dissolved by a strong solvent such as acteone, PU would not really be affected at all.
Regarding the epoxy, that would not be affected by acetone, certainly not over the lengths of time it would take to dissolve away an internal foam core so the process you're describing would be absolutely fine, providing that you use a polystyrene foam core and not a polyurethane one.
Best regards, Matt
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baja_patient
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Good stuff! Yeah I get what you are trying to do. Should be relatively straight forward with a design similar to the one in the picture. But dont forget, CF is a radio frequency blocker. You will lose considerable signal with a full carbon case. Perhaps try black diolen.
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