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identiti66
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Hi all.. sorry if this makes no sense but I'm clueless.
I have a completely knackered elbow and need to immobilise it and then protect it from the rigours of mountain biking.
Have kind of worked out making the mould but laying the carbon fibre (or similar) is way out of my scope.
It needs to be impact and abrasion resistant.
From a quick read, perhaps a few layers of Diolen with Carbon top layers? Help keep the cost sensible.
I'll probably line it with either sheepskin or foam
Is that enough to get started?
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If it doesn't need to be strong along it's circumference then you could use a couple layers of uni-directional carbon fibre, orientated along your A-B line. Possibly even just in strategic areas, such as the elbow bend. That would ensure it's nice and stiff, whilst the kevlar spreads the impact load. Should also remain fairly flexible along it's circumference, depending on how many layers you use and the type of fabric you go with.
Having thought about it, you should probably use a layup similar to Chris'. One layer of 200gsm carbon fibre, two layers kevlar, 2 layers of uni carbon along the elbow bend, and then one final layer of carbon fibre, also probably a heavier fabric like Chris used, ie. 450gsm. I was probably over-thinking the impact strength of the part initially, 2 layers of kevlar would do well for what you need, and the carbon fibre will prevent any flex.
What you want to consider though, is will this thing become dangerous in itself in the event of a crash? Ie. if you make it so strong that it will not flex and it will not break, you want to be sure that it is not going to cause you harm that may otherwise have been avoided, for example lacerations from the edges of the part. One possible way to avoid that would be to flare the edges away from your arm ever-so-slightly, would only take a millimeter or two. Or if the foam liner that you mentioned earlier was thick enough, that might do the job too.
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Gotta make me some body armour
identiti66
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11 Years Ago
Why not kevlar with a diolen outer layer? If you're after black that is. Both kevlar and diolen are...
Hanaldo
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11 Years Ago
That's the kind of info I need.. best options for material and then how to get the thing made. End...
identiti66
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11 Years Ago
Well aramid fabrics like kevlar and diolen are impact and abrasion resistant. Not as stiff as carbon...
Hanaldo
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11 Years Ago
Thanks for that.. plenty of good stuff to think about.. :cool: I need to be able to come off, at...
identiti66
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11 Years Ago
Slightly off topic, but noticed the comment above about cutting Kevlar - I am having exactly that...
macgtech
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11 Years Ago
[quote][b]macgtech (31/03/2014)[/b][hr]Slightly off topic, but noticed the comment above about...
carbonfibreworks
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11 Years Ago
I made a lower leg support for a client, one layer of 200g carbon then two layers of Kevlar another...
carbonfibreworks
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11 Years Ago
Wow that looks really nice.. and cool too.. Got a rough sketch, it needs to be super strong along...
identiti66
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11 Years Ago
If it doesn't need to be strong along it's circumference then you could use a couple layers of...
Hanaldo
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11 Years Ago
As mentioned Kevlar can be a pain to cut. You really need a good pair of Kevlar shears as Chris...
wozza
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11 Years Ago
Thanks chaps.. sounds like good, solid advice. I figured that the internal foam padding would be...
identiti66
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11 Years Ago
[quote][b]identiti66 (03/04/2014)[/b][hr]Thanks chaps.. sounds like good, solid advice. I figured...
wozza
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11 Years Ago
Just to add my 2p to the convo, have you considered the risk of immobilising your elbow? By...
ajb100
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11 Years Ago
[quote][b]ajb100 (03/04/2014)[/b][hr]Just to add my 2p to the convo, have you considered the risk of...
identiti66
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11 Years Ago
Like others have said if you make it too rigid and solid the loads will simply be transferred...
tack talk
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11 Years Ago
[quote][b]tack talk (04/04/2014)[/b][hr]Like others have said if you make it too rigid and solid the...
wozza
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11 Years Ago
" To crush a honeycomb core between cf skins would require a very big impact. If you have hit...
tack talk
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11 Years Ago
guys.. sorry I've been away from this for a while, the universe conspired against me. Had a bit of...
identiti66
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11 Years Ago
Hi everyone, I don't know if it's considered good or bad practice to dig up old threads, but I'm doing it, as this one is relevant. Of course, if it's bad practice, then please say so, and I'll chang...
romdj
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5 Years Ago
Just found the thermoplastic :) Now I really need the lining / HD foam
romdj
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5 Years Ago
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