Mould Making And Flanges


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Hey People,,

Here's a quick one thats hopefully straightforward?

My problem is, I am making a  plug and getting ready to take the mould. The plug is pretty much a rectangular cube which I'm gonna do in 2 sections, 3 sides of the box per mould.

Now to make the mould I've stuck on some corrugated card to act as flanges that block off the parts I do not want to use yet. So the question is, how do i stop gelcoat getting between the card and the plug? There's very little room to use modeling clay as it will get in the way of the defined corner.. Do I pull the card away a little and then fill the gap with clay, just behind the corner?

Or do  I use nothing at all and hold the card in place (its stuck on with double sided tape, i'd just be holding it to stop it flexing too much) whilst applying the gelcoat, using any lines created as guide lines when I trim the part??

I can post any pics if needed, just let me know! Smile

Thanks for your help!

Rob

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Just a quick bump,,, anybody out there??

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robenergy - 4/23/2020 10:58:32 AM
Just a quick bump,,, anybody out there??

Filetting wax is really great for these applications. Can easily be pushed in the smallest of gaps and trimmed to perfection (either flat or to create nice radius).

https://www.easycomposites.co.uk/fumed-silica-thixotropic-powder

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beliblisk - 4/23/2020 6:16:34 PM
robenergy - 4/23/2020 10:58:32 AM
Just a quick bump,,, anybody out there??

Filetting wax is really great for these applications. Can easily be pushed in the smallest of gaps and trimmed to perfection (either flat or to create nice radius).

https://www.easycomposites.co.uk/fumed-silica-thixotropic-powder

Thanks for the reply..

Yea thats what I was gonna do.. But all I've got is modelling clay, n its oily as n a pig to use.. Was really hoping I could get away with not using it.. Just wanna make sure I get the solid clean edge!!

Is the filleting wax superior to the modeling clay for use?

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beliblisk - 4/23/2020 6:16:34 PM
robenergy - 4/23/2020 10:58:32 AM
Just a quick bump,,, anybody out there??

Filetting wax is really great for these applications. Can easily be pushed in the smallest of gaps and trimmed to perfection (either flat or to create nice radius).

https://www.easycomposites.co.uk/fumed-silica-thixotropic-powder


Also,, in what order is best to do things?

I've applied my mould release to the plug and flanges, stuck my flanges on, n now applying the clay to the gaps... but now there's gonna be residue on the plug from the clay,.. If I rub this off, will the mould release be Ok or should I apply more?

Thanks for any help!

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Filleting wax is far superior to modelling clay, both in how nice it is to use as well as how well it works. Definitely do yourself a favour! 

For release agent, I do all my coats of chemical release agent before applying filleting wax or clay. Then I do a couple coats of release wax, which cleans up any residue in the process. You should also be fine to just lightly buff the residue off, but I do like to do another coat afterwards - you can never be too careful with release agent!
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Hanaldo - 4/24/2020 12:26:21 AM
Filleting wax is far superior to modelling clay, both in how nice it is to use as well as how well it works. Definitely do yourself a favour! 

For release agent, I do all my coats of chemical release agent before applying filleting wax or clay. Then I do a couple coats of release wax, which cleans up any residue in the process. You should also be fine to just lightly buff the residue off, but I do like to do another coat afterwards - you can never be too careful with release agent!


Hey Hanaldo,

Good to hear from you.. Hope you're well and thx for the reply! Smile

Ok great, pretty much what i've done, although I've stuck with the clay, will be upgrading ASAP though!! Horrible stuff!! :p

Can I ask, when you're sticking your flanges on, whats the preferred method of attachment, hot glue or double sided tape, or c something else??

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Definitely hot melt glue. I use 3mm coreflute, and glue the flanges on from the back side of the flange. Then seal the gap with filleting wax.

I remember the struggle of using plasticine/clay. Filleting wax changed my life, I'll never go back!
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Hanaldo - 4/25/2020 3:36:05 PM
Definitely hot melt glue. I use 3mm coreflute, and glue the flanges on from the back side of the flange. Then seal the gap with filleting wax.

I remember the struggle of using plasticine/clay. Filleting wax changed my life, I'll never go back!


I did try the hot glue on another project and didnt like it.. So I gave the double sided tape a try, and not too happy with that either.lol

And yes,  definitely a struggle with clay  putting it mildly.. Smile

Thanks for the input!! Smile



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The only problem with tape is movement.  If the flange has adequate support, that may not be an issue.  Hot melt glue is good in that respect as you can build nice fillets of it to keep the flange straight. 

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