Looking to machine flat panels


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Dan_H
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Hello everyone,

I'm a new member to the forum and I'm looking for some advice on how best to machine carbon fibre panels.

Reading a previous post about how to make flat panels has been very helpful and my aim is to make purely decorative CF panels to use as a nameplate for a display stand I'm currently working on. I'd like to 'engrave' onto the panel and in fill with paint and then machine around to cut the desired shape out.

What is the best method to use (laser cut, CNC machine, water jet etc.) to enable me to:

1. engrave onto the surface so as not to cut completely through the panel

and then

2. completely cut out a perfect edge around my engraving

Also, as this is completely non-structural am I better off using a substitute to carbon such as Diolen to make this less expensive? Are there any differences to machining Diolen against Carbon?



Thanks in advance guys!
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you COULD have it water jetted in aluminium, and then either cover with cf or just use CF pattern vinyl graphics. no reason to overspend i think. if that suits your needs anyways.

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these guys may have something to speed up the process for you.
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To answer your questions in order (from my experience and knowledge)

1. Engraving I would think having it CNC machined out would be best as it is relatively cheap for its level of precision (it should only require a 3 axis machine, or even a 2 axis with a manual adjustable z-depth. If you wanted to try it by hand, you could try routing it with a router and carefully setup jig, or with a steady hand, but for the amount of time you will spend doing that I would say just CNC it.

2. Cutting I would suggest in the following order:

Waterjet (best - for panels)
CNC (best - for complex cuts)
Laser jet
Bandsaw (worst)

Don't get me wrong, they will all do the job well enough for a hobbyist to make use of, but apparently laser jets will burn the edges and leave frayed carbon fibers. I have had some of my pieces waterjet cut, and the cut line is absolutely amazing. My layup was:

2 layers of 5.7oz carbon
2mm Soric core material
2 layers of 5.7oz carbon

The waterjet even cut the Soric perfectly (I thought there may be an issue there, but none whatsoever). Waterjet is also recommended due to the fact that it doesn't add heat to the cut, which can warp or affect the piece, especially if it has not gone through a proper post-cure cycle yet. Unless there is concern about getting the piece wet, I would try to use waterjet for cutting.

As far as machining Diolen, I have no experience so I cannot comment there. And to follow up on Scott, using a cheaper material would be useful especially while you work the kinks out of your project. I guess it just depends how "authentic" you want it to be. Some people are more concerned with having the real deal, while others just want the look. But I would recommend creating tests and samples out of other materials before you use up expensive carbon fiber. You could also consider using Basalt fiber; not sure if easycomposites carries that.

-Mike-
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Here is a completely silly thought that I have not tried - truly just thought of this on the spot. For engraving, if you wanted to engrave someone's name for example, you could heat up lettered stamps (maybe 60 or 70 degrees Celsius), and press them into the top layer of resin (assuming you had not post-cured it yet). This may make the resin flexible enough that it would re-form that around the lettered stamp, and give you a slight indentation so you could in-fill with paint...or it may completely ruin the surface finish of your nice carbon fiber piece Tongue That is what test samples are for!

Well, that's enough ridiculous ideas for one day.

-Mike-
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