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I'm about to embark on my first carbon fiber skinning project on the plastics of my dirt bike (fenders, side panels, etc). But after looking closely at some of the pieces, there are some that have deep indentations where the holes go for the bolts, which has me concerned. The largest ones are up to 5cm in depth and 3cm in diameter (see image of one of my side panels below). My question is this: is it possible to skin these all the way down to the bottom of the holes, and if so, how would I go about it? I'd really prefer the carbon fiber to go all the way down since these holes are very visible and I want the parts to look like they're completely made of CF. Any help is greatly appreciated! 
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Steve Broad
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+xI'm about to embark on my first carbon fiber skinning project on the plastics of my dirt bike (fenders, side panels, etc). But after looking closely at some of the pieces, there are some that have deep indentations where the holes go for the bolts, which has me concerned. The largest ones are up to 5cm in depth and 3cm in diameter (see image of one of my side panels below). My question is this: is it possible to skin these all the way down to the bottom of the holes, and if so, how would I go about it? I'd really prefer the carbon fiber to go all the way down since these holes are very visible and I want the parts to look like they're completely made of CF. Any help is greatly appreciated! Very difficult, even for the experienced. Have you thought about hydro-dipping? However, even this may prove problematical due to the depth of the holes. Having said that, I am sure one of the more experienced users on here will be able to help.
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allanx24
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+x+xI'm about to embark on my first carbon fiber skinning project on the plastics of my dirt bike (fenders, side panels, etc). But after looking closely at some of the pieces, there are some that have deep indentations where the holes go for the bolts, which has me concerned. The largest ones are up to 5cm in depth and 3cm in diameter (see image of one of my side panels below). My question is this: is it possible to skin these all the way down to the bottom of the holes, and if so, how would I go about it? I'd really prefer the carbon fiber to go all the way down since these holes are very visible and I want the parts to look like they're completely made of CF. Any help is greatly appreciated! Very difficult, even for the experienced. Have you thought about hydro-dipping? However, even this may prove problematical due to the depth of the holes. Having said that, I am sure one of the more experienced users on here will be able to help. Yeah, I've considered both hydro-dipping and vinyl wrapping, but I'm not interested in either. I want real carbon fiber on my bike.
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In the words of Liam Neeson, Good Luck. Even though he didn't actually say that in the movie Taken.
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Steve Broad
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+x+x+xI'm about to embark on my first carbon fiber skinning project on the plastics of my dirt bike (fenders, side panels, etc). But after looking closely at some of the pieces, there are some that have deep indentations where the holes go for the bolts, which has me concerned. The largest ones are up to 5cm in depth and 3cm in diameter (see image of one of my side panels below). My question is this: is it possible to skin these all the way down to the bottom of the holes, and if so, how would I go about it? I'd really prefer the carbon fiber to go all the way down since these holes are very visible and I want the parts to look like they're completely made of CF. Any help is greatly appreciated! Very difficult, even for the experienced. Have you thought about hydro-dipping? However, even this may prove problematical due to the depth of the holes. Having said that, I am sure one of the more experienced users on here will be able to help. Yeah, I've considered both hydro-dipping and vinyl wrapping, but I'm not interested in either. I want real carbon fiber on my bike. In that case, make a mould so you can have a real carbon part as opposed to a pretend one. A carbon skinned part is just as fake as a vinyl or hydro part :-) Also, on a dirt bike, the vibrations and flex of the parts may cause the carbon to separate from the plastic, in particular the fenders.
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allanx24
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+x+x+x+xI'm about to embark on my first carbon fiber skinning project on the plastics of my dirt bike (fenders, side panels, etc). But after looking closely at some of the pieces, there are some that have deep indentations where the holes go for the bolts, which has me concerned. The largest ones are up to 5cm in depth and 3cm in diameter (see image of one of my side panels below). My question is this: is it possible to skin these all the way down to the bottom of the holes, and if so, how would I go about it? I'd really prefer the carbon fiber to go all the way down since these holes are very visible and I want the parts to look like they're completely made of CF. Any help is greatly appreciated! Very difficult, even for the experienced. Have you thought about hydro-dipping? However, even this may prove problematical due to the depth of the holes. Having said that, I am sure one of the more experienced users on here will be able to help. Yeah, I've considered both hydro-dipping and vinyl wrapping, but I'm not interested in either. I want real carbon fiber on my bike. In that case, make a mould so you can have a real carbon part as opposed to a pretend one. A carbon skinned part is just as fake as a vinyl or hydro part :-) Also, on a dirt bike, the vibrations and flex of the parts may cause the carbon to separate from the plastic, in particular the fenders. I wouldn't say just as fake. Carbon fiber ads strength and can be fixed up if/when it gets scratched. Not so with vinyl and hydro. As much as I'd like to make a mould, that's far more complicated than I'm ready for at this stage. The back of the parts are quite complex. I'll take my chances on the plastic separating from the carbon. Anyone else?
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+x+x+x+x+xI'm about to embark on my first carbon fiber skinning project on the plastics of my dirt bike (fenders, side panels, etc). But after looking closely at some of the pieces, there are some that have deep indentations where the holes go for the bolts, which has me concerned. The largest ones are up to 5cm in depth and 3cm in diameter (see image of one of my side panels below). My question is this: is it possible to skin these all the way down to the bottom of the holes, and if so, how would I go about it? I'd really prefer the carbon fiber to go all the way down since these holes are very visible and I want the parts to look like they're completely made of CF. Any help is greatly appreciated! Very difficult, even for the experienced. Have you thought about hydro-dipping? However, even this may prove problematical due to the depth of the holes. Having said that, I am sure one of the more experienced users on here will be able to help. Yeah, I've considered both hydro-dipping and vinyl wrapping, but I'm not interested in either. I want real carbon fiber on my bike. In that case, make a mould so you can have a real carbon part as opposed to a pretend one. A carbon skinned part is just as fake as a vinyl or hydro part :-) Also, on a dirt bike, the vibrations and flex of the parts may cause the carbon to separate from the plastic, in particular the fenders. I wouldn't say just as fake. Carbon fiber ads strength and can be fixed up if/when it gets scratched. Not so with vinyl and hydro. As much as I'd like to make a mould, that's far more complicated than I'm ready for at this stage. The back of the parts are quite complex. I'll take my chances on the plastic separating from the carbon. Anyone else?
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The odds are that the mudgard is ABS so the cf will probably separate. If it is then the complex shape of the back of the panel is probably to stiffen it. If you make a mould for the component for cf do you need the complex shape?
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+xAllan.The odds are that the mudgard is ABS so the cf will probably separate. If it is then the complex shape of the back of the panel is probably to stiffen it. If you make a mould for the component for cf do you need the complex shape? Good point, probably not. Though I'm not sure how I'd get rid of the unneeded parts in a mould...or how to do a mould at all for that matter. I think I'll take a crack at skinning and if (and when based on the comments so far) I fail, I'll probably see if I can figure out how to create actual CF parts using moulds.
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As the holes are too deep for the carbon to be able to drape fully into them have you thought of just applying strips of carbon around the holes inner perimeter first, slightly oversize, allow it to cure then shave it down until its flush with the main surface, then lay the main sheets over the top of the whole part and trim around the holes, the weave wont match but it will look continuous to a degree unless you get up really close.
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