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Can anyone tell me why your xcr resin once fully cured and sanded it peels off!

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You will need to be much more specific with the description of your problem

What surface have you applied the XCR resin to? 
How did you prepare that surface? Sanding, degreasing  ...

I have now used up at leaast 4 kg  of XCR skinning/coating resin on various projects, and only had one single problem with the outer layer of XCR peeling off, and that was traced back to having left the part too long past the "tacky" state before applying the last coating.  I should have waited, left it to cure fully and keyed + degreased the surface, before applying the last coat... 

So far the EC XCR coating epoxy has been a truly great product for me ..


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Interloper393 - 9/1/2017 10:10:41 AM
Can anyone tell me why your xcr resin once fully cured and sanded it peels off!

Yes, as Dravis says, more detail is required in order for us to diagnose your problem. As it happens, Dravis has already pointed out the most likely cause which is the previous layer having cured too far (past its B stage) in order for the new layer to cross link with it chemically - this means you're reliant on mechanical bond which then means that surface prep (keyed surface) is essential. Provide as much info you can as to your process, other materials involved, work environment and timings and we should be able to put a finger on the issue. When used right the inter-laminar bond between layers of XCR should be excellent but it is a fast curing resin and if you miss the window then the bond strength will be negligible without proper prep.


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Iv skinned a few parts..
First coat with the dye,  waited until tacky and stuck the carbon on,  added a coat of resin straight away.
Waited 24 hours.
180 dry sanded the parts.
Apply ed another 3 coats all just over a hour apart ad they were tacky but no residue came off on my finger.
Allowed to cure for 2 days..
180 wet sanded to key to apply another 2 coats but you can scratch the  patina of with your finger nail.

I only skin in my house so always warm and moisture free.
I use digital scales to measure ratios. I'm a painter so now how to measure accurately.
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What grits suitable for using between coats. ?  Fed up with this issues and it's wrecking parts because of it.. I'll just let each coat cure sand and apply another.
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So is it scratching easily once sanded or peeling off in layers?? We normally recommend starting off around 120grit then working up to 240grit before applying the final layer of resin.

I would recommend you follow each step in the instructions for our Skinning kit to the letter to try and rule out any process related issues. You can download the PDF here: Skinning Instructions 



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If it breaks through with sanding you can air blow it off.
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Interloper393 - 9/4/2017 5:13:21 PM
If it breaks through with sanding you can air blow it off.

What you're describing really doesn't sound consistent with the way the resin should perform. I appreciate that you are a painter and so you are confident with your mixing but no matter what your level of experience it's always possible to make mistakes (we make them occasionally and we work with these products every day). If you are applying subsequent layers onto tacky resin then the new layer should crosslink properly with previous layer and the bond between the layers should be better than you can achieve by allowing the resin to cure and then keying it back.

The only two logical explanations are that the resin has either cured too far to crosslink (therefore you need to apply your next layer sooner) or there is some surface contamination on the previous layer which is interfering with the next layer's ability to bond to it - this is likely to be caused by insufficiently thorough mixing or inaccurate mix ratio. I would suggest triple-checking your mix calculations (maybe you could share them with us), making very sure you're mixing thoroughly (I suggest using a double-potting technique) and also reducing the time you wait before applying one coat onto the next. Correctly followed, I would be staggered if this does not resolve the issue.


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