Large 37ltr mould and questions on safely and successfully casting.


Large 37ltr mould and questions on safely and successfully casting.
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ChrisR
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  • Will this allow to mix a few batches of resin and pour this in to the mould before the whole thing sets? With anything, test first but you are more likely to have colour differences and casting errors/fractures
  • What's the maximum safe amount of resin/ATH amount to mix in one container? Any idea on pot life? - Resin dependent, but the manufacturer should be able to give you an idea. I've seen less than 1" in the bottom catch fire with a quick curing PE, I mix a maximum of 1.0kg in one hit typically with a long pot life epoxy, and 0.75kg of PE
  • What's the best choice of resin? EC sell xencast P6 which I plan if suitable.
  • Can I do an in-mould coating of pattern coat primer to provide a surface that will accept paint straight out of the mould?
why are you casting such a large part? Surely wet lay would be a better option, you're talking boat quantities of resin there. You'll use less expensive resin with a CSM or woven roving and you'll reduce the exotherm. Layup both sides then mould the two together in the last pass off a resin rich layer?

Any quantity of PU resin is susceptible to foaming too, it would be a shame to waste £400 of resin!!!! That would be a very expensive "teaching moment"

Looking at the datasheet, 6min pot life is nothing, you'll barely get 1/2 kilo mixed, rested/degassed and poured in that time!

If you're intent on casting such a large volume in one shot, you can get (very expensive) mixing tube machines - not sure what they are actually called but have seen them - you basically have 2-3 containers mounted on it and the machine pumps the resin/hardener/filler down to a mixing head, minimal exposure to humidity/water, essentially unlimited batch as it mixed at the nozzle. 
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I would be extremely amazed if there is any thermoset resin system out there that can do a 40kg pour in one shot, even with filler... That is some mass. I'd wager you will need to do it in multiple pours. 
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For me any resin with more than 1kg is large as you likely have to consider resin exotherm due to the volume and heat.

I sourced this polyurethane as it was specifically for mass casting.




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Nice work there!

You have me a little worried since you classify 8kg as large. The one's I'm looking to do are 41kg of resin assuming a density of 1.1g/cm3.
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I did a few large castings a while ago that was about 8kg resin.

I used a specific casting polyurethane resin from Axon and it all went well.

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Hi everyone.

First off thanks to everyone on here. I've read a lot of interesting threads and have learnt a lot.

I've got a project going on right now where I need to cast multiples of a large piece. The volume of the pattern is 37ltrs which is around 41kg of resin with no filler.

I've worked out the split lines on the mould and I think these will work well given the shape. All surfaces have a draft of 6 degree's and any parallel sides are on the split lines. If anyone can take a quick look over the attached image and just make sure I haven't made any glaring errors.

My question is how to cast such a large piece. I'll be using ATH filler in a quantity of 1:1 ie. 1 part ATH to 1 part mixed resin.

  • Will this allow to mix a few batches of resin and pour this in to the mould before the whole thing sets?
  • What's the maximum safe amount of resin/ATH amount to mix in one container? Any idea on pot life?
  • What's the best choice of resin? EC sell xencast P6 which I plan if suitable.
  • Can I do an in-mould coating of pattern coat primer to provide a surface that will accept paint straight out of the mould?
Thanks for any help.
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