Core Materials Explanation for "noobs" ?


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Drill it with holes every 2-3 cm. Holes only need to be 2 to 3mm diameter.  On the mould contact side, score lightly between the holes too.  This gives channels for the resin to flow under the foam once it has travelled down the hole to the bottom layer.

Even if you did it in stages, youd still have to bond the foam to the cured carbon somehow as its unlikely on the second infusion that the resin would fully flow underneath.

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Thank you for your answer !

So I'm looking for 1000 to 2500 holes/ m² plus the channels between the holes. That makes a good couple of hours of work to save 1.2kg/m². I may end up trying to make a nailed plank that I just have to hammer on the foam to speed up the process a little. I just have to see if nail holes are good enough.

I will test that this weekend as I have some foam left from my previous wet lay project.
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Matt (Staff) (04/07/2012)
Hi Lisanty,

There are very many different types of core materials that you can use in a composite laminate ('sandwich' composites), we stock some of the more popular or easy to use core materials and so given the wide range available I'll only summerise the ones we stock.

The idea of all core materials is to increase the thickness of a panel without increasing its weight, cost or layup time (depending on the core material and the production priorities) as much as solid reinforcement would. Because in a panel under load it's really the innermost and outermost skins that do the majority of the work and because increasing the thickness of a panel increases its stiffness significantly, low density core materials can be very effective in creating stiff, light panels.

COREMAT
The simplest core material of all. Really only used in wet-layup of conventional GRP parts. Lower density than solid glass but still with quite a high resin uptake so more of a time and cost saver than a weight saver.

LANTOR SORIC
Like an infusion grade version of coremat but with a much more sophisticated honeycomb-like cell structure. Soric will act as an internal flow media for resin during infusion (meaning resin flows through it easily and in fact Soric can function as the only resin flow facilitator in an infusion project). Soric has a medium resin uptake meaning that there are lower density core materials out there but almost none that are as easy to use. No special processing is required, just lay the soft, flexible honeycomb-like mat into your laminate before infusion. We sell this is 2mm and 3mm.

Matt

Could you comment on nomex honeycomb please. 

Thanks

Fred

CLOSED CELL PVC FOAM
Lower density than Soric, easy to work with foam core material. Closed cell foam has good compressive strength, bonds well to resin systems (particularly epoxy resin) and needs no special processing. Being a 'closed cell' material means that it have virtually zero resin uptake and so it remains a low density core even after infusion. Suitable for wet-lay, vacuum bagging, resin infusion and pre-preg (depending on processing temperature). For co-infusion, the core MUST be drilled to allow resin to flow from the top skin to the bottom skin. Alternatively, upper and lower skins can be made in advance and then bonded together around the core.

ALUMINIUM HONEYCOMB
The highest performance (in terms of mechanical strength vs. density) of all core materials but certainly the most complicated to work with. Generally, when working with aluminium honeycombs (or even other honeycomb materials), it is necessary to make the two skins separately first and then bond in the honeycomb using a liquid honeycomb bonding adhesive or an adhesive film (such as Hexel's Redux 609). Aluminium honeycomb has excellent shear strength and good compressive strength and used correctly will result in the highest performance (hence its widespread use in aerospace and F1). Aluminium honeycomb is not suitable for infusion (because the cells would simply fill with resin) and so, as with other laminating methods, it is necessary to make both skins separately first.

I hope this gives you a good insight into these different core materials and what they can do for you. For further information, take a look at the product pages for the respective products where you'll find mechanical and process data (such as resin uptake, density, compressive and shear strength) which would be helpful when making comparisons.

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I have a basic question on the size naming you have. When you specify 3.2mm, 6.4mm or 19.1mm, do you refer to the ID or OD, like inscribe or circumscribe diameter?
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I have a question about my experience with Soric. I have done an infusion twice with 2mm Soric and both times have had "pattern printing" of the Soric onto the cosmetic finish of the completed component. The first time, we thought we may have had an issue with the in-mold gelcoat and it's ability to set, so we did a second infusion without the gelcoat, and still have Soric printing. I would really like to use this product, but with the surface not being the level I want or expect, I am concerned I'll have to do something different. 
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Cell size on the honeycomb is centre to centre and is nominal.  It would be virtually impossible for you to open up unexpanded honeycomb and get the exact cell size uniformly.


Several things can cause soric print through.  1. leaking bag 2. high temperature curing 3. removing part from mould too soon. 

By far the most common in our experience is 3.

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Thanks!
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Thank you for a really good overview, from me too! Would be grateful for some slightly more specific advice if that's ok?

We're planning to build a carbon/kevlar/glass sumpguard for a rally car, the current design uses layers of carbon and glass with a kevlar skin on the underneath (for its wear/penetratin performance). The glass layers are essentially to add bulk in the middle and I was looking at your core materials as being a potentially more effective alternative.

The guard will be bolted up onto brackets on the car, obviously the crush strength of the core material at the mountings will be critical. I'm wary of using the aluminium honeycomb because it creates a hollow, so was thinking that something like Coremat would be suitable, am I on the right track? Will it sustain the compression loads associated with bolting up and (obviously) impacts?

Many thanks in anticipation
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I would always bond inserts into the carbon,you could use a large diameter flat washer but inserts would be better .
Regards Chris

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We were thinking of using aluminium or steel plates as spreaders but even so, I'm still concerned about crushing a core material. Some sort of through-thickness insert (as in a crush tube?) is possible, or a top-hat bush, but obviously then you have the risk of the insert ripping out of the composite... or shouldn't we worry about that? 
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