Gel coat too thin?


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Hi guys,

I had my first attempt at mould making recently on a door handle surround. It may not have been the best initial mould to make but at the same time it didn't look too complex. The one problem I did seem to have was the gel coat appeared to be too thin. It ran off the sharp edges and left a very very thin layer around these bits. I mixed up the gel coat accordingly but it seemed as though it simply ran off the waxed part. I will post pictures shortly. Perhaps I was supposed to fully submerge the part within the plasticine boundary?

Cheers in advance!

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Hi Vips,

Thanks for your post. That gelcoat does seem to have gone on suprisingly thinly - the tooling gelcoat is like cake mixture normally! - What temperature are you working at, my only guess is that you're at a much higher ambient temperature than 20C (which is the temp we usually work in).

Certainly, looking at where you are now I would be planning on multiple layers of gelcoat, particularly in the areas where it seems to have run away down to almost nothing. Remember to add your subsequent layers of gelcoat whilst the previous one is firmed up but still tacky - if you are working at a higher ambient than 20C then this window will be shorter than it normally would.

I hope this helps. Multiple gel applications are certainly called for, particularly on those thin looking areas.

Best regards, Matt

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Cheers for your quick reply Matt, much appreciated. 

It was definitely a little warm that day, and so the temperature must have been the culprit. Ill keep an eye on the temperature for the next batch I mix up.
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Hi Vips,

OK, I'll be interested to hear how you get on.If the specific shape of your mould (and the temperature you work at) meansthat you still struggle to keep the gel on the vertical sides of the mould thenyou could look at adding colloidal silica to the gel, effectively making iteven thicker and reducing its propensity to 'flow' slowly. If you do add silicaalways remember to add a small amount at a time and agitate the mix thoroughly,then leave for a while, then agitate again. This will develop the full thickeningproperties of the silica.

I hope this helps, Matt

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I concur with Matt, The gelcoat is normally thick like custard and I find I need to put the unmixed bucket of gel into a sink of hot water to decrease the viscosity so it can be mixed.

Certainly a strange situation you are having.
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Hey guys,

I've started a new less complex mould. It does have slightly sharp edges and I've noticed the gel coat is still too thin. I've mixed it up as instructed and checked the ambient temperature to be around 15 degrees celsius. I cooled down the gel coat whilst mixing it using some ice to surround the mixing pot. This helped a little but I noticed it still left a very thin coat on the edges. I've waited for it to become tacky and have added a further layer to all the areas which appear thin. I can only imagine that I'm doing something terribly silly here or there is something strange going on with the mixture. I'll wait till it becomes tacky again before placing some backing on or further layers of gel coat. I'll post some pictures shortly.

Matt, how do I obtain the material you mentioned?

Cheers,

Vips
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Hi Vips,

You can find silica here. [Matt Edit: Thanks Joe!]

 



 


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