Vacuum Gauge Precision (can't pull full vacuum)


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Hi all,

My name is Andreu and I'm new to this forum. I've just received my order from EC and I'm already trying to make my own carbon fibre parts using resin infusion.

For the first trial I wasn't concerned about the final quality of the part (a simple plate) as I only wanted to be familiar with the process. However, I noticed I couldn't reach 'full' vacuum. Instead, the vacuum gauge was stuck at -29Hg (0.98+ bar). I closed all the leaks in the vacuum bag but I kept having that remaining pressure inside. In order to be sure of that, I connected the vacuum pump to the resin catch-pot only. The hose that usually comes from the resin catch-pot was clamped so the vacuum was only made inside the catch-pot. When I pulled vacuum from the pot, I obtained the same result. 

Taking into account that I live in Barcelona and my house is <100m above sea level, I wonder if my equipment is all right or not. In other words, I want to know if the the vacuum gauge is simply not representing the reality inside the bag because of its precision. I can imagine 2 possible answers to the question:

- YES, the equipment is just fine. The precision of the vacuum gauge of the resin catch-pot is somewhat near to 2mbar and that is why I obtain these 0.98bar.
- NO, there's something wrong. You should obtain -1bar (-30Hg), which in reality represents the advertised 99.995% vacuum.

Could you please help my clarify this issue? 

Thank you a lot and good luck to everyone!

Regards,

Andreu

 
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Thanks for the interesting feedback everyone.

Warren made some valid points but I agree that there are situations where a very accurate vacuum gauge is called for. For day-to-day applications a simple vacuum gauge is all that's required, particularly if you're not trying to compare two pumps etc. and of course changes in atmospheric pressure will affect the pressure shown on the gauge anyway which is why we often suggest that people don't rely too heavily on the vacuum gauge as an absolute truth and instead learn to read other signs (like the pump's sound) as indicators of leaks etc. No vacuum gauge I've ever used will indicate the minute difference in pressure between a tiny leak and no leak in the way that opening and closing the valve to the vacuum pump will and so I understand why Warren was emphasizing that point.

I'll certainly look into sourcing some high-end vacuum gauges as an upgrade option for our product range. 'morepower' is quite right that a good gauge doesn't need to cost the earth.

Best regards, Matt

Matt Statham
Easy Composites / Carbon Mods - Technical Sales
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