Rocket Airframe


Author
Message
ROCKET COL
ROCKET COL
Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 4, Visits: 16
Hi all, just putting this out to see what you all think.
Looking to coat a spiral wound cardboard tube 142mm OD with 2mm wall 2m tall.
it will just add more strength to the tube, it needs to be light yet strong.
It also needs to have a good finish, may or may not be painted.
What do I cover it with?
Sleeve, woven cloth, fibreglass, carbon, Kevlar????
Peelply or vac bagging?? the tube is hollow and needs to keep its shape as parts fit in and slide out to allow recovery.
There are also 3 large fins at the base, so do I do tube first, then cut slots and slide over fins then fillet the joints or do i do in 1 hit
and hope it looks ok.
Depending on motors it could be going up to 650mph in a few seconds to about 10,000 feet, also has to take landing on parachute.
I know a lot to take in just asking.
Thanks
Colin
Replies
ROCKET COL
ROCKET COL
Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 4, Visits: 16
Thanks Matt Got the black Twaron to do the main body. Going to wrap 2 layers of this along the 1.7 meter length using the slow el2 resin, then a tight wrap of peelply and finish off with a wrap of 50mm wide shrink tape. need to sort out the upper part (payload section) fins and nosecone.
I dont want it all in twaron as it is just too black, how about the carbon with colour weave in it?
Also what quantity of resin pr square meter of cloth? i heard 500g per m2 but not sure. Anywher I cam post pics of build on here?
Col
Matt (Staff)
Matt (Staff)
Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 680, Visits: 1.9K
Hi Col,

Going to wrap 2 layers of this along the 1.7 meter length using the slow el2 resin, then a tight wrap of peelply and finish off with a wrap of 50mm wide shrink tape. need to sort out the upper part (payload section) fins and nosecone.


You might find the peel-ply pretty hard (not impossible but pretty hard) to remove. Do you need the peel ply or could you just wrap the shrink tape (or some release film then shrink tape) direct onto the wetted out reinforcement.

I dont want it all in twaron as it is just too black, how about the carbon with colour weave in it?


No reason why not (the coloured fibres are polyester so won't have the same tensile strength as carbon or Twaron but the rest of the fabric is carbon so should perform well).

Also what quantity of resin pr square meter of cloth? i heard 500g per m2 but not sure. Anywher I cam post pics of build on here?


Reckon on 50/50 by weight with the fibre which means for a square metre of 200g fibre you'll use about 200g of resin. 500g sounds like much to resin-rich to me.

All the best, Matt

Matt Statham
Easy Composites / Carbon Mods - Technical Sales
ROCKET COL
ROCKET COL
Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)Forum Member (46 reputation)
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 4, Visits: 16
Thanks Matt. Used peelply on a project a while ago when vac bagging a part, came off ok. what males you think its will not come off (thought it was designed to peel off)
Also the nosecone is already made (polypropylene) do you think thats going to be hard to cover to make it neat or should i just paint it? 
Matt (Staff)
Matt (Staff)
Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)Composites Expert (Staff) (10K reputation)
Group: Forum Members
Posts: 680, Visits: 1.9K
Hi Col,

The peel-ply will come off I just suspect that on a cylinder shape with a shrink-tape over the top it will be hard work; I wasn't sure whether it was neccessary, that was all.

RE the nosecone, covering polypropylene will always be difficult because nothing (including paint!) will stick to it!

Matt Statham
Easy Composites / Carbon Mods - Technical Sales
GO

Merge Selected

Merge into selected topic...



Merge into merge target...



Merge into a specific topic ID...





Similar Topics

Reading This Topic

Explore
Messages
Mentions
Search