GC50 delaminated


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I am not a happy camper today. I spent a bunch of money to have GC50 sent to the US because its the only thing that will work according to Easy Composites.

I followed every direction perfectly and soon as i cut the part, it start to chip up immediately.

I got the mixing portions right, i bought a spray gun. Laid it on a bit thinker, maybe 0.5mil or 0.6 mill, but should not of been a problem since some people brush it on heavier.
i let it stand for about 10 hours, well after the 2-3 cure time and well within the 24hour max out period. i did resin in fusion. i let the resin and the gc50 cure for 3 days. first cut, darn near instantly started to chip up and de-laminate. i used a cutoff wheel and actually moved downt eh part slow and moved fast to see if it was heat or speed, still happened no matter what.

i am at a loss guys. this product was supposed to be aon a show car tomorrow and i completely blew it because of this issue. i really dont understand.

here are a few pictures.
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Matt,

At this point i have only done one part with GC50

My shop is part of the house and not the garage so there were no other contaminates or anything else done in the house to cause and issue. I sprayed the GC50, went to bed, woke up, sanded it and then went about the infusion setup process. 

Warren did bring up moister and it has been rainy, yet warm here. The part of the states i live is not known to be very humid in the summer, but it had been the past few weeks. I am looking into purchasing dehumidifier to help rule this out as a possible cause. 

I am also going to try a hand layup with a different epoxy i use for hand lays along side my resin research 2050 and make two small 15"x 15" test panels. It is thicker so not ideal for infusion, but has been my go to since i started making carbon parts a few years ago. I will give that resin a try and see if it does a better job bonding to the GC50. I have had a cheap epoxy off of ebay not mechanically bond to anything before, so i know that the type of epoxy can be an issue. So trying my go to epoxy that i know bonds to everything next to my infusion epoxy will prove real quick if its an epoxy issue. I have used this epoxy as a depth coat on a million things and never had it not bond to what ever i laid it over. So if that test panel does not bond, i am going to be very confused. Lucky for me, if the epoxy proves to be the issue i can get away with hand lays for a while due to using a gel coat and not having to worry about pin holes until i find a compatible infusion epoxy here in the states. 

Thanks for the help everyone. Great to get feedback from you guys. 

I am very busy this week so i wont get that test panel done for a few days (also wouldn't hurt to wait for my dehumidifier to show up), but once i do i will check back in and let you guys know my findings. 

Regards,
Frank M
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Yes, thanks Frank, that sounds like a great way to go; it's all about finding what we can rule out and then seeing what's left at the end. Warren and I will monitor this thread and respond once you've had a chance to do some tests with a different epoxy.

Kind regards, Matt

Matt Statham
Easy Composites / Carbon Mods - Technical Sales
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