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We like to push the boundaries at Carbon fibre works LTD and have for some time been working on a technique to reproduce the forged carbon as used by a very well known Italian sports manufacturer,we now have own process and will shortly be adding dates so we can teach you the technique . To register interest and to book this course or any of our other composite training courses PM me or email carbonfibreworks@aol.comhttps://www.facebook.com/Carbonfibreworks-ltd-69783772689…/…




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i do like the forged composites method, its something im looking into on a couple of private projects.
Can i ask what material you're using?
Chris Scott
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I have been wanting to learn more about this technique.  Unfortunately I'm located in the states.
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Cant understand why your using bundle's of fibres ?

The part in your picture the resin/fibre ratio is terrible and also the fibre orientation is too inconsistent

Why not use carbon flock which is used on the golf clubs an watches ?

can form that into a lot better "paste" when you add your resin and you have a very even spread of fibres

At the end of the day lambo an calway invented/patented a system that's just an evolution of what some wet lay boys have been doing for the last 30 years
Matthieu Libeert
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looks good, but to be honest I was thinking the same as F1rob with the carbon flock

Matthieu Libeert
Founder MAT2 Composites X Sports
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Just commented on this on another forum. From my own understanding Carbonfibreworks have worked on their own process. Fibre pastes would generally be used in the manufacture of forged composites. This is not something you would find from most of your suppliers. Just ask your reps!.
It's also worth noting that a forged item will not have the visual characteristics of a traditionally moulded carbon fibre product.

I'm all for new processes and would love to understand the technique Carbonfibreworks have used here.
I do get hungry for information surrounding new methods so please respond promptly Wink
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I read an article on forged cf, think it was a composites magazine aimed at the professional market and Chris's finish looks very close to the parts in the article, definitely not flock.

Could look very nice used on bike parts.
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You don't get carbon fibre paste from your rep !

cup of flock,cup of resin=carbon paste

love to see some pictures of some forged parts that look like the one posted here ?

"forged" composites is a name, a marketing ploy almost to get pr bullshit for a cheaper process

sort your fibre content,heat cure resin ratio and into a closed mould on a heated press an your there

Sorry but load of fibres/resin mix in a closed mould isn't anything new or pushing any boundaries

People were doing this 20 years ago

the only difference being they were putting a wetted out 200g in the mould first an another over the paste once it was put in

came out perfect cosmetic part
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"forged Carbon" is a marketing "gimmick"  IMHO ...

I think the term comes from the "Drop forging" methods used for forging very strong steel components like crane hooks and chain buckles--

In this process a forge temperature lump of steel is put into a form and a very large drop hammer is used to hammer the top part of the form down to "forge" the steel into the correct shape in one single blow .. it is very impressive when the parts are really large .. Cool

The term was originally used by one of the hyper-expensive watchmakers .. "Audemars Piquet"  to describe the process they used to make high pressure moulded watch-cases out of "shredded" pre-preg, I think they had the term from some french aerospace firm, that had some patents on it from way back in the 80'es

They have a heated stainless steel "drop forge" type mould, that they fill (literally stuff it in with a stick) with a precise amount of "shredded" prepreg and then they close the multi-part mould and put it in a hydraulic press, and heat it up (controlled ramp up, just like normal Prepreg)

The hydraulic press and the precisely controlled amount of prepreg material ensures a very high fibre to resin ratio, and a very homogenous "block" of CF that can then be machined to a precise fit.  I do not know what type of prepreg resin they use, but the CF case watches do not seem to ever be very highly polished.

A new Audemars Piquet Royal Oak Offshore Carbon Diver will set you back around 22.000 Euro -- Crazy

I have duplicated the process using both aluminium and stainless steel moulds ..

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