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Dry areas appearing when using GC50
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MarkMK
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Hi all
A couple of recently infused parts have demoulded with small dry areas of crazing on the part surface. I'd sprayed GC50 into the mould first, left overnight and infused the next morning.In both cases full vac was achieved and drop-tested for 30 mins before infusion
All other aspects of the process were adhered to carefully. If there was anything amiss I'd have expected to see any blemishes to appear below the outer gelcoat surface so was puzzled by the surface imperfections
Could it perhaps mean that I need to apply the gelcoat a little more thickly, as I'm usually concious of not spraying too much and creating sags or uneveness that might affect the appearance of the cured fabric.
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Hopefully the attached pic will provide a bit more insight. I'm guessing it's what's commonly referred to as alligatoring?
The demould was easy, but I did have to hold the part in the mould to remove some of the peel-ply in strips, as the part had freed itself before all of it was stripped away. Not certain if some movement during demould could have caused the defects but ift feels odd that the damage has only followed the lines of the fabric matrix if so?
Additionally, I did use acetone to partly activate the coating in certain areas to help with positioning the fabric. Not caused me an issue previously, but could over-use of it degrade the coating to this extent?
If this is a risk then perhaps I'd be better off just using the Aerofix 3 for help in positioning. I know the debate's been had in other posts already, but I've found it doesn't leave any residue, even without using an in-mould coating, just so long as you finely mist it from distance onto the fabric and allow it a little time to settle before positioning.. Early attempts spraying direct to tbe mould caused problems and when i'd gone a bit heavy with it in places. .
Anyhow, all input on current issue much appreciated
Mark
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It looks like dry spots from the infusion rather than a surface problem
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I agree, it does, but the imperfections have also broken the outer gelcoat when previously I'd only ever witnessed this appearing underneath (which is worse as you can't get to them in order to try and rectify).
The part wasn't overly large and ambient temps have been around 20° of late. I've also been careful to leave the resin feed open for 15 seconds or so following closure of the vac line.
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Dry areas appearing when using GC50
MarkMK
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10 Years Ago
Are the parts de moulding easily? Is the crazing happening during removal? Alternatively, is it...
ajb100
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10 Years Ago
Could you quickly just clarify what you mean by crazing? I have heard people use crazing and...
Hanaldo
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10 Years Ago
If you can take a photo we shall try and work out what is going on. Actual cracking would tend to...
Warren (Staff)
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10 Years Ago
Hopefully the attached pic will provide a bit more insight. I'm guessing it's what's commonly...
MarkMK
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10 Years Ago
It looks like dry spots from the infusion rather than a surface problem
ChrisR
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10 Years Ago
I agree, it does, but the imperfections have also broken the outer gelcoat when previously I'd only...
MarkMK
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10 Years Ago
This also happened to me when I closed the entrance of the resin and after too much time the vacuum...
Jacopo Carbonio
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10 Years Ago
I can understand it had I been shutting off the resin feed prior to the vacuum line, as you...
MarkMK
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10 Years Ago
The picture looks like there are actual voids there not alligatoring. The voids are right through...
Warren (Staff)
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10 Years Ago
A bit more info may be required: What's the stack sequence? How long did you pull the vac before...
ChrisR
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10 Years Ago
Sorry, no pics of set-up Chris, but will likely run another part this week. Stack was two plys of...
MarkMK
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10 Years Ago
There is a note in that video that the formula for GC50 has been changed and acetone no longer works...
Brian_s
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10 Years Ago
Yes the formulation changed meaning acetone does not activate it in the same way as before. Acetone...
Warren (Staff)
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10 Years Ago
Doh! That'll teach me to pay closer attention. Thanks gents, glad I raised it now rather than just...
MarkMK
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10 Years Ago
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