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Jut
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Hello
I've been lurking on here for a bit now, watching the videos and soaking up all the info I can. I think I'm at the point where I've learnt as much as I can and it's time to get my hands dirty.
My first project is to create a carbon panel to replace the air bag on the Momo sterring wheel from my Accord Type R.
I want to take a mould of the plastic cover that the airbag bursts through when things go wrong. This cover has a leather effect grain, which I would like to fill and smooth before I take the mould.
Can I use regular high build filler primer from a Halfords rattle can ? My plan is to spray a few good coats over the whole part and then wet sand it smooth. Would this provide a suiatble surface for tooling gel ? Or would I need to seal it up with something else first ?
I hope I've explained myself properly
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Would some of the filleting wax wax not be easier to fill the grain? Also acting as a mould release agent?
You could always then clean off the wax and retain the original part if you wanted to refit the airbag when it comes to selling it on.
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That sounds like a good idea. If it wasn't for the fact that the airbag has already been deployed (in my face) that would probably work. Because I've had to glue the panel back together the surface isn't great, plus there are some logos I want to fill in. I really need a surface that I can sand smooth.
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In my opinion it could work but I have some additional remarks;
- my english isn't that well but "a filler/primer rattle can" is a spraycan?
I don't really know the brand or product but filler in spraycans I know dont really "fill" surfaces... the just fill small scratches before spraying the topcoat
- When I use filler/ bondo for the mould where I laminate on , I always like to use a highgloss colour out of a spraycan. It helps me to find errors and gets you a better
finish to clean and put the mouldrelease on...
- at school I've seen some students laminating on the filler and the part didn't released after waxing it for 4 times
the filler and epoxy just mixed or something i think...
I hope this may help but you should maybe ask for some more advice or approval of what I just tols you
Matthieu Libeert
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So all I have to do is spray a topcoat on and it's ready to take a mould ?
Thanks mate, that's exactly what I needed to know
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Euh,
Step1. well I've been thinking... you should be sure the bondo is attached well enough to your airbagplate...
otherwise you will make the mould and when you want to release the mould you could maybe remove the airbagplate and still have the bondo attached on your mould.
So make sure the bondo will stay on the leather textured piece.
step 2. once you sanded the bondo you spray a primer out of a spraycan for example
step 3. you spray a glossy colour out of a spraycan on it ( do it in a several layers and maybe check on youtube how to spray if you haven't done it much before)
step 4. Let it dry long enough to make sure it "cured" fully
step 5. clean the surface and put mouldrelease on it
step 6. make the mould like EC-guys explained
good luck and I hope it will work
Can not guarantee for 100% it will work, but thats the way I would do it
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Jut
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13 Years Ago
Would some of the filleting wax wax not be easier to fill the grain? Also acting as a mould release...
SiSmith
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13 Years Ago
That sounds like a good idea. If it wasn't for the fact that the airbag has already been deployed...
Jut
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13 Years Ago
In my opinion it could work but I have some additional remarks; - my english isn't that well but...
matthieutje65
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13 Years Ago
So all I have to do is spray a topcoat on and it's ready to take a mould ? Thanks mate, that's...
Jut
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13 Years Ago
Euh, Step1. well I've been thinking... you should be sure the bondo is attached well enough to...
matthieutje65
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13 Years Ago
dont use halfords rattle cans... they can react when making the mould and ruin your mould. use a...
andygtt
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13 Years Ago
Thanks for the info, What brand of rattle cans would you recomend ?
Jut
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13 Years Ago
Have to say I cant recomend rattle cans at all... probably best to ask EC I used 2 pac paint and...
andygtt
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13 Years Ago
Hi, I would not go for the rattle can either, I've been that way and had sad surprises too....
Joe
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13 Years Ago
Too late, allready got a few layers of filler primer on there. Might skin it instead and take a...
Jut
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13 Years Ago
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