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New high temp vinylester mould making pva problems.

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By kip - 3/27/2021 7:03:59 PM

I got some weird problems I never had before in all my vinylester moulds I made.
I'm now using a high temp 145°C vinylester mould system  and to be sure I get no release problems on the parts  carbon fibre winglets I used PVA

So I waxed mould 7 times with high temp wax and than used pva this all went well .
After the layup the release was verry good little to good even it almost fel off but  the problem is the high gloss clearcoated carbon winglets are full  little pinoles and the mould surface also .

after demoulding I stil could peal off the pva film from the  gelcoat side verry good .

I'm using  partal coverall pva purple one because this works with the  tr104 high temp wax


By kip - 3/29/2021 12:01:36 PM

Hanaldo - 3/29/2021 3:11:29 AM
Yes, I can see the texture. It looks very much like what I have experienced when moulding directly off some polyurethanes without the use of PVA. PVA should have prevented it, though I generally spray 5-6 layers of it so that it, so I dont know if brushing on one layer would be enough if it didn't form a closed surface. My gut feeling is that it would still protect the surface, and so this isn't that same reaction problem.

Which makes me feel like it is potentially a heat issue. Perhaps the exotherm of the gelcoat curing got too hot for the paint to handle and it bubbled. But really just guessing now, there's so many possibilities with the various chemicals in play that it is quite difficult to know for sure.


The weird thing is when I use easylease only it wont change the texture it only makes the clearcoat "swell" get bigger and after time when demoulded the clearcoat shrinks slowly.
So I also was thinking heat  but stil the reaction with the pva from heat  I find strange