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Resin Infusion of carbon fiber with balsa core - any experience?

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By HansenJC - 3/5/2019 4:05:59 AM

Does anyone have hands on experience doing resin infusion of carbon fiber with a balsa end grain core. In my research on the methods, I find statements of vendors that indicate balsa end grain can be fabricated as a core between carbon fiber this way but at this time, actual evidence or instructions by someone experienced doing this still eludes me. Does anyone know anyone what has done it (successfully), or is it mere hyperbole by the vendors of the balsa core material? FYI, I have written to one notable vendor with no response. I have also done a patent search and with one notable exception there are no patents that shed light on the process of sealing the end grain. The referenced patent simply says
"seal the end grain". 
But how to seal it and with what to seal it? And how much weight is added to the balsa when it is sealed? Is this all a secret?
Looking for replies with experience.... no theories or conjecture, please.
By HansenJC - 4/1/2019 12:36:27 AM

oekmont - 3/8/2019 6:34:03 AM
That's the core of the problem. You will not find much data for the resin uptake, because it varies more than 100%. No two pieces are the same. I have had balsa, wich was almost like birch, and I had balsa, wich was like xps foam. I have seen balsa wood with fine structure, and wood with a sponge like structure.
The small influence of the core to the bending characteristics results directly out of the principles of mechanics. And the pressure resistance of a sandwich is proportional to the pressure resistance of the pure core material. It's as easy as that. Have you ever had airex or rohacell in your hands? Maybe you picturing it like insulation eps. Real core foams are incredibly solid. You can drive your car across an airex board without damaging it.
I am not saying you should not use balsa. I am just saying that it seems to me that you are glorifying for some reason. And your image of it being an top end ultralight option ("as light as possible") and much stronger than foams doesn't correspond with my experience.
And resin uptake is a tricky beast itself. other than the used wood, it depends on your resin, the thickness, the surface preparation, infusion aiding preparation and many more.
If you want to seal it, use a quick setting epoxy, or a 2k laquer.


@oekmont, When you say:
"I have had balsa, which was almost like birch, and I had balsa, which was like xps foam" what are your sources for the balsa? I see claims of suppliers that their balsa is pre-sorted or graded by density. I am preparing to buy a sheet of the lightest available balsa that I can find. I am most interested in Baltek. Have you ever used it?