Questions about making flat sheets and rectangular box channel..


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revolt_randy
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Hi all,

I have a few questions about making flat carbon fiber sheets and hollow rectangular box channel.

When making a flat sheet under a vacuum, (or anything for that matter), what kind of release film should I use? From what I have read, Peel-Ply and Porous release films will allow excess resin to be pulled from the layup, but a non porous release film doesn't? But parts created with the non porous release requires less finishing, is that correct?

Second, I'm looking to make a box channel by wrapping a piece of Styrofoam with carbon fiber, then remove the stryofoam with acetone. I've already created a piece like this, but since I don't have vacuum equipment (yet) the finished part was rounded and not square like the stryofoam. I assume creating the part with a vacuum will make the carbon fiber conform to the square shape better.

I'm working on really small parts here, The box channel is made using a piece of 1/4" x 5/8" stryofoam and I wrapped it with 5 layers of 5.7 oz/sq yd .012 thick fabric. I was aiming for the side walls to be 1/16" thick. Would a thinner fabric and more layers work better to create a square part, or thicker & less layers?

Thanks for any help,
Randy
 
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Non-perf release film would only require less finishing because it would make a very resin rich part. Cosmetically this is better, but it would be a weaker, heavier part. 

Without some sort of consolidation (be it vacuum, shrink tape, or even just formers of some kind), youre going to struggle to wrap a box section. I'd go so far as to say that it would be impossible to do on a section as small as yours. Carbon is stiff, it wants to straighten itself out, so it will always bridge the corners. It would definitely be much easier to do with a lighter fabric, a heavier fabric will only make it worse. 

I would suggest getting some form of consolidation sorted. If you don't want to invest in vacuum, just get some shrink tape/tube and a heat gun. Can be a bit tricky the first time you use it but it's pretty easy really. Otherwise, make up some wooden formers and cover them in packing tape. Lay up your carbon around the foam and then bolt the formers together around it (with the plastic tape side against the resin obviously) to hold everything in place. 
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