Determine which fabric to chose while roll wrapping a 90mm rod


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You could be right about the expansion although I tried to keep the heat down as much as possible because its very easy with the heat gun to get local hot spots and either melt through the shrink and or boil the resin, obviously scraping the finished tube.




one thing I learned was the tape is pretty much unusable with a hot gun as it melts at the slightest over heat but the shrink tube is fairly workable.
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Yeah ... I did some electronics work, using glue lined shrink tube, and we had all kinds of problems with overheating other parts of the assembly with the heat gun. I then tried putting the assembly with the shrink tubing in place, into a curing oven and ramped up the temperature until I had a complete shrink down of the tubing .. that required the oven to ramp up to +120 degrees Celcius.. Crazy Thats why I am a bit wary of using shrink tubing for making CF tubes...
 I've gone the other way and made up a "mandrel + outside compression mould" setup.  I found a local company that makes Nitrile rubber parts, they made some inflatable thick walled tubes for a friend, who wanted to produce a lot of composite tubes.  Fo my use I could not justify the cost of these tubes, so for some of my CF-tubes I used bicycle innertubes as internal compression.
I inflated the inner tube to hold the fabric and resin in place, then envelope bagged the whole setup and then vacuum on Smile

I made some "precision" tubes by first turning a tube mandrel to the desired outside diameter, then polishing it and making up a split mould from that. I then turned down a piece of the same Alu tube to the desired inside diameter and polished that .. I "cheated" a bit on the inside mandrel and made it very slightly tapered, about 1/10 of a mm over 50 cm length .. That makes releasing it a lot easier BigGrin




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some pictures.

shrink tube all fitted


finished still on mandrel excuse wonky weave as first one done 






poor picture but can be seen fitted to home made race system

i gave myself problems with not enough overhang length on the mandrel. 
Edited 9 Years Ago by VVS
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Haaah  w00t... Thats exactly the same thing I made my first tubes for ... using EC high Temp Resin -- Mine were plain weave CF surface though.. I made my own "pro-finish" plain weave, by spraying the reverse (in) side with Cytec spray ..  so no "wonky weave" on mine ... i know I have a picture somewhere ... Doze

Nice look with the Kevlar though --- Smile

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I'm probably following the same road you've been down.

Restoring an old race bike and foolishly decide to replace glass with carbon.

The important dimension with the tube was the inside so that o could reuse the ti end caps.

Back to the initial post and there will be different issues with the much thicker wall thickness, should be much easier to remove due to the extra mass of the tube.
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@vvs

Does using a un-perforated film cause loss of dimensional accuracy?


Also do you know the kind of plastic and un-perforated film is made of.Since i am not able to get hold of it in my country so was thinking of sourcing the same material film as an alternative.

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Ive Seen people back their cloth with some plastic film/butter paper and then wet it.Hence when they roll the fabric onto the mandrel it doesn't skew.How effectivee is that compared to spraying?

How much is  structural strength compromised by skewing of weave?....sine the part i am building is taking some pretty nasty loads
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It didn't affect my diamentional accuracy as its very thin, perhaps 0.2 mm.

its unlike other plastic films I've seen, it has very little stretch and is heat proof, would say its a little like the antistatic bags that computer parts come in but thinner.
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