Carbon canoe - pitting and bubbling in gel coat - what is cause and what products needed


Carbon canoe - pitting and bubbling in gel coat - what is cause and what products needed
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I've had this before, it looks like early osmosis but it maybe something else unknown.

Points of note:
1) Dry it out - really dry it out i.e. stick it in the house (heated space) for a month or two, but before hand using a very soft pencil (4B or china pencil) mark around the bubbles. you may find most of them just go away - then you can either fix the areas or just leave them be and rub off the pencil markigns.
2) Is it actually gelcoat? If it's a full CF canoe then it may just be a mould or post applied paint - If thats the case then it may just be contamination causing the bubbles
3) Don't store it enclosed outside i.e. in a sock where some dampness can remain, if you intend to leave it outside make sure it's fully ventilated.

How do I know this? I stored my boat in a workshop for a few years without using it - the place get damp and wasn't well vented, osmosis bubbles came up everywhere, I changed the storage location to a fully vented barn and they all went away
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It does look like potentially water damage, perhaps osmosis as suggested.  Ensure the boat is fully dried out before repairing.  A relatively simple gelcoat repair then sand and polish to match as described above will be whats needed.

If the damage is under stickers. you will probably need to peel them off and replace with new once the repair has been done.

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Hi Tom,

Thanks for your reply. That's good news that we can use standard gelcoat, however, I'm a bit concerned about how thick the gelcoat is as the carbon weave texture is visible, I would imagine to get a 7.5m boat including ama to weight 9.8kg, it will be thin. Also, how easy is it to match the colour?

I have also noticed, since posting, that the colour sections on the top deck seem to be applied vinyl sections as their edges are raised as opposed to being under the gelcoat, I am waiting for a response to the manufacturer as to what these are but if they are applied vinyl sections and the bubbling in this area is in the gelcoat under them, this will complicate things.

We are in Stoke-on-Trent, so within easy traveling distance of Nottingham. When you say you may be able to help, do you mean in assessing it further or do you do repairs?
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Looks like there has been some osmosis happening and has caused the surface to blister.  I would sand back the bubbles and let it fully dry out indoors if possible. Then fill with a white gel coat and wax add. 

Sand back going through the grits finishing on a buffing compound.  The boats are vinylester so shouldn't have a problem using standard gelcoat. 

Where is the boat based?  If it is near Nottingham then I may be able to help.

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Hi, my wife has a full carbon Allwave Vanguard Outrigger canoe.

It is only about 12 months old and we have just removed the cover after being stored for the winter to find an extensive 'roughness' on the gel coat - like tiny bubbles, really course to the touch. Also in places, there is visible bubbling, see picture.

She has only over used plain water to clean it (after ever use) and 'Car Plan bumper shine' to polish it, which was recommended by the seller.
It has been stored in a nylon sock and not come into contact with any chemicals. There was no problem when it was last used in October/early November - could frost have damaged it?

Firstly, can you suggest what might have caused the problem, and secondly what products do I need to repair it. I specifically want to know if I need to colour the gel coat (the boat has a multi-colour design!!) or will I be able to just sand away the bubbles and re-coat it with clear gel.

http://www.talkcomposites.com/Uploads/Images/72351c7a-f577-4d35-8090-1824.jpg
(The darker lines are reflection of trees)
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